Loosely speaking, we can have quantum mechanics without randomness, driven by deterministic hidden values but then it has to be non-local. This is apparently Bellâ€™s theorem

The most famous version is the De Broglie-Bohm formulation/ pilot-wave theory.

Iâ€™m reading about this because actually Iâ€™m thinking about the non quantum case; what difference does it make to assume that there is a deterministic variable underlying your apparently random one?

In the classical case, no difference AFAICT. But when your wave function evolves according to the Schroedinger equation and then collapses, it gets stranger with this whole non-locality thing.

Scott Aaronson points out some fun edge cases:

```
It follows that, if we want it to agree with quantum mechanics, then any
hidden-variable theory has to allow â€śinstantaneous communicationâ€ť between any
two points in the universe.
Once again, this doesnâ€™t mean that quantum
mechanics itself allows instantaneous communication (it doesnâ€™t), or that we
can exploit hidden variables to send messages faster than light (we canâ€™t).
It only means that, if we choose to describe quantum mechanics using hidden
variables, then our *description* will have to involve instantaneous
communication.
But hereâ€™s the amazing thing:
even in the teeth of four different no-go theorems, one can
still construct interesting and mathematically nontrivial hidden-variable
theories. [â€¦]
```

on Bohmian mechanics:

```
the amazing thing about this theory is that itâ€™s deterministic:
specify the â€śactualâ€ť positions of all the particles in the universe at any one
time, and youâ€™ve specified their â€śactualâ€ť positions at all earlier and later
times.
So if you like, you can imagine that at the moment of the Big Bang, God
sprinkled particles across the universe according to the usual \(|\psi|^2\)
distribution;
but after that He smashed His dice, and let the particles evolve
deterministically forever after.
And that assumption will lead you to exactly the same experimental
predictions as the usual picture of quantum mechanics, the one where Godâ€™s
throwing dice up the wazoo.
The catch, from my point of view, is that this sort of determinism can only
work in an infinite-dimensional Hilbert space,
like the space of particle positions. [â€¦]
if our universe is discrete at the Planck scale,
then it canâ€™t also be deterministic in the Bohmian sense.
```

Ananthaswamy, ByAnil. n.d. â€śClosed Loophole Confirms the Unreality of the Quantum World.â€ť Quanta Magazine. Accessed July 30, 2018. https://www.quantamagazine.org/closed-loophole-confirms-the-unreality-of-the-quantum-world-20180725/.

Bush, John W.M. 2015. â€śPilot-Wave Hydrodynamics.â€ť *Annual Review of Fluid Mechanics* 47 (1): 269â€“92. https://doi.org/10.1146/annurev-fluid-010814-014506.

Chaves, Rafael, Gabriela Barreto Lemos, and Jacques Pienaar. 2018. â€śCausal Modeling the Delayed-Choice Experiment.â€ť *Physical Review Letters* 120 (19): 190401. https://doi.org/10.1103/PhysRevLett.120.190401.

Goldstein, Sheldon, Travis Norsen, Daniel Tausk, and Nino Zanghi. 2011. â€śBellâ€™s Theorem.â€ť *Scholarpedia* 6 (10): 8378. https://doi.org/10.4249/scholarpedia.8378.

Jaynes, Edwin Thompson. 1990. â€śProbability in Quantum Theory.â€ť https://bayes.wustl.edu/etj/articles/prob.in.qm.pdf.